#4 – Why Leaving Ministry Feels like Death with Josh Saenz
Who am I if I'm not a pastor?
In this episode Collin sits down with his friend, mentor, and former boss Josh Saenz (Founder of Compel You).
Collin and Josh dive into:
why (exactly) leaving ministry feels like a death,
the role family played in their transitions out of ministry,
and the pain of not knowing who you are outside of ministry.